Soul Sleep and Inconsistent Pauline Dispensationalists

      There are "Christians" that hold to the idea that when a believer dies he is not conscious until the resurrection.  Some refer to this as "soul sleep."  

     I do not think this is an issue to break fellowship over even though I do not hold to the doctrine of "soul sleep" or whatever other term one uses to describe this.

     What amazes me the most about this doctrine is the number of Pauline dispensationalists that hold this view.  E.W. Bullinger, a theologian I enjoy reading, although not using the term "soul sleep," took this position on the state of the dead.  There are also many in the Mid Acts Dispensational camp that also hold to this doctrine.  Both the Acts 28ers, like Bullinger, and the Mid Acts people boldly claim "Paul is our Apostle."  "We get our doctrine from Paul."  However, when it comes to promoting "soul sleep" doctrine, the Acts 28er and Mid Acts Dispensational teacher, instead of going to Paul, will say take your Bible and turn with me to Ecclesiastes 9:5.  When I hear this I think how inconsistent can one be? Are we not taught to consider what Paul says and the Lord give thee understanding in all things?  The reason these "Pauline Dispensationalists" do not go to Paul on this issue is because Paul does not teach "soul sleep."  Our Apostle Paul says in Philippians 1:21-23:

[21] For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
[22] But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not.
[23] For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:

      Are we to only follow Paul when Paul lines up with what we believe or what our favorite grace teacher believes?  It seems that is what the Acts 28ers and Mid Acts Dispensationalists that believe in "soul sleep" are doing. These same people would scold an Acts 2 Dispensationalist for using Matthew 28:19 to prove water baptism is a command for today.  They would cry "Matthew is not our apostle, we get our doctrine from Paul."  Well to the Pauline Dispensationalist promoting soul sleep, is the writer of Ecclesiastes your apostle?  Do you get your doctrine from Solomon?  My favorite "grace" teacher is Paul, so I will just stick with what he says, rightly divided, on this issue and all the others as well!

Part 2-Conclusion-Did Paul Ever Preach the Kingdom Gospel?

As a follow up from the previous post, most Acts 2 and Mid Acts Dispensationalists say that Paul never preached the "Kingdom Gospel."  My position as stated in the prior post is that Paul did preach elements of the Kingdom Gospel during his Acts ministry because God does not cast Israel aside until after Acts 28, thus Israel could still repent of unbelief and be graffed back in during the Acts period.

Romans 11:23 states, "And they (Israel) also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again."

Note that the verse above says God is able to graff unbelieving Israel back in again.  This goes contrary to the Acts 2 and Mid Acts position that says Israel could not get the Kingdom after Acts 7 because of blaspheming the Holy Ghost.  Before dying, Stephen prayed a prayer for Israel in Acts 7:55-60.

 [55] But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
[56] And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
[57] Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,
[58] And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.
[59] And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.
[60] And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

Stephen, as a Kingdom Saint, had the prayer promise of "ask and receive."  His prayer in this passage was not outside of God's will as some claim, because verse 55 states he was full of the Holy Ghost when he prayed.   There are actually some Mid Acts Dispensationalists that claim God did not answer this prayer even though Stephen had the prayer promise of  "ask and receive."  God answered the prayer, contrary to what some Mid Acts Dispensationalists teach, and held off on laying the sin of blasphemy to Israel until at least the end of Acts.  

What about the Kingdom Gospel in Acts?  Israel's Kingdom is certainly preached in Acts.  Consider Acts 1:1-3.  The Kingdom continued to be preached by Christ before he ascended in Acts.  Note especially verse 3 below.  This is certainly a reference to Israel's Kingdom.

[1] The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,
[2] Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
[3] To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:

Phillip also preached the Kingdom Gospel.   Acts 8:12 states, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women."  All the Mid Acts people agree this is the Kingdom Gospel because water baptism followed belief.

The strangest thing happens with the Mid Acts people after Paul gets saved.  All of a sudden the term "Kingdom of God" no longer refers to Israel's Kingdom but to some kingdom for the Body of Christ.  This is done in light of all the prior references to the "Kingdom of God" in Acts as being defined as Israel's Kingdom.  Note the following references to the "Kingdom" preached by Paul and every time the Mid Acts Dispensationalists make them apply to the Body of Christ?

Acts 14:22-Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Acts 19:8-And he went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God.

Acts 20:25-And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more.

Acts 28:23-28- [23] And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.
[24] And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not.
[25] And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers,
[26] Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:
[27] For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
[28] Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.
[29] And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves.
[30] And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto him,
[31] Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.

I will concede to the Mid Acts Dispensationalists for the sake of argument that maybe you can make the "Kingdom" in Acts 14, Acts 19, and Acts 20 apply to the Body of Christ.  However, it will not work in Acts 28:23-31.  The Kingdom in Acts 28:23 has to be Israel's Kingdom because Paul tells you he is basing his message about the Kingdom from the law of Moses and the prophets!  The mystery concerning the one Body of Christ is not found in Moses or the Prophets, so that kingdom being preached in Acts 28:23 has to be Israel's Kingdom!

In conclusion, Paul did preach elements of the Kingdom Gospel in the book of Acts!

Did Paul Ever Preach the Kingdom Gospel (Part 1)

      Did Paul ever preach the Kingdom Gospel?  I would say based on my limited knowledge that all the Acts 2 Dispensationalists would answer this question by saying "No."  I would also say based on my limited knowledge that most of the Mid Acts Dispensationalists would answer this question by saying "No."  From my study of the Bible I am going to say Paul, at least in his early ministry, preached elements of the Kingdom Gospel.  Why do I say this?

     Consider Matthew 3:1-8 where John the Baptist is preaching:

[1] In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea,
[2] And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
[3] For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.
[4] And the same John had his raiment of camel's hair, and a leathern girdle about his loins; and his meat was locusts and wild honey.
[5] Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan,
[6] And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.
[7] But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
[8] Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

Is the above passage the Kingdom message or the Gospel of the Grace of God?  It is Kingdom!

     Now connsider Acts 26:15-20 where Paul states what he had been preaching:

15] And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.
[16] But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;
[17] Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,
[18] To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
[19] Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:
[20] But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

     Does Matthew 3:8 match Acts 26:20?  I would say yes.  If Matthew 3:8 is part of the Kingdom message, then I would have to conclude Acts 26:20 is part of the Kingdom message as well.  Contrary to the Acts 2 and Mid Acts Dispensational positions, Paul clearly at least preached elements of the Kingdom message.  The Acts 2 and Mid Acts Dispensationalists will do theological gymnastics to make Paul somehow be preaching the Gospel of the Grace of God in Acts 26:20.  Have you ever heard a Mid Acts Dispensationalist preach Acts 26:20 to the Body of Christ?  I have not.  Do you know why?  The honest answer is Acts 26:20 is a Kingdom message and not a message for the Body of Christ under Grace!

Rightly Dividing Paul's Epistles (Copied)

 Disclaimer:  The following is an article by Mike Schroeder.  I copied it to my blog because I thought it was worthy of consideration.  E W Bullinger once said (and I agree) concerning speakers and writers at his conference:

"We  cannot  hold  ourselves responsible  for  every  expression  of  the  respective speakers.   Many things with which we may not wholly agree are inserted as being either suggestive or worthy of consideration.”

 

Rightly Dividing Paul's Epistles

By Mike Schroeder

In the debate over what is the correct treatment in dispensationalizing the New Testament, I would like to make an attempt to present a position that seems to have been left out of the current list of designations concerning this subject, e.g., “Acts 2,” “Acts 9,” “Acts 13,” “Acts 28,” etc. My purpose in doing this—which should be the purpose of any Bible student, no matter what their theological persuasion—is to discover, from Scripture, who we Christians are, what we are to be about doing while we’re here on this earth, where we are going when this is over, and what we can look forward to when we get there. Isn’t this really what everybody who has called on the Lord Jesus Christ to save them should be concerned with?

Before I embark on this effort to present my position, I think it would be useful to provide a brief summary of each of the above positions as I understand them. They are as follows:

Acts 2

This particular treatment teaches that the church of the present dispensation began with the calling out of the “lost sheep” by the 12 apostles in Acts chapter 2, which commenced what is often referred to by those of this view as “the church age.” This would be the most prevalent belief system among dispensationalists. Those who hold to this position are traditionally categorized into three groups: 1. Classical; 2. Modified Classical; and 3. Progressive. Theologians who have contributed the most to the foundations of the Classical view would include J.N. Darby, C.I. Scofield and L. S. Chafer; the Modified view: John Walvoord, Dwight Pentecost and Charles Ryrie; and the Progressive view: Craig Blaising, Darrell Bock, and Rogert Saucy. Eschatologically, all of these would hold to the view that the church of the present dispensation is distinct from Israel, and that the promise to Israel will be fulfilled in a future dispensation. There would, however, be considerable differences between them concerning to what extent Israel is related to the church, the interpretation of prophecy and to what extent it plays in the scheme of things. All would say the sign gifts ended with the Apostolic era.* All would hold to the practice of water baptism (but with differing beliefs about what it affects) and the Lord’s supper, and proclaim Acts 2:38 as the gospel message for today. No distinction would be made—concerning the gospel and salvation—between what the 12 preached and what Paul preached. Major denominational systems that hold to the Acts 2 position would include most Baptists, Campbellites (Churches of Christ, Disciples of Christ); Brethren, Evangelical Free (Dallas Theological); Moody Bible Institute, et. al.

*This would, of course, not be the case with those who call themselves “Pentecostals,” who claim the sign gifts to still be effectual in the church. Please see the article “I am not a Charismatic” for my position concerning this group of people.

Acts 9 & 13

Also known as the “Mid-Acts” position, and sometimes referred to by Acts 2 folks as “Ultra” dispensationalism, this view, like the Acts 2 view, holds to the parenthetical nature of the church in the prophetic timeline, being a distinct entity from Israel, but differs in that it doesn’t begin the church or the church age in Acts 2--identifying that church as distinctly Jewish—but, rather, begins the church the body of Christ and the church dispensation (grace-Eph. 3:2) in either Acts 9 (with Saul’s conversion), or Acts 13 (where Saul becomes Paul). The main theological contributors of this view are J.C. O’Hair, C.R. Stam, and C.F. Baker. Doctrinally, Mid-Acts dispensationalists believe Paul had a gospel distinct from that of the 12, which does not include the ordinance of water baptism, but does include the Lord’s supper (the NT version of the Passover memorial). They believe the whole canon of scripture is written for us, but only Paul’s epistles (they generally include the letter to the Hebrews as part of this) are written to us (the body of Christ) for direct obedience. They are, generally speaking, eschatologically pre-trib (the rapture precedes the seven year tribulation), futurists (everything written in the book of Revelation is yet in the future and applies only to Israel), and believe in the future reign of Israel in the prophecied millennial kingdom. The main organizations supporting this view are the Berean Bible Society in Germantown, Wisconson (founded by Pastor Stam); Grace Bible College of Grand Rapids, Michigan (founded by Pastor Baker); and Grace Theological Seminary of Winona Lake, Indiana. The two major theological treatises of this view would be Stam’s, “Things That Differ,” and Baker’s, “A Dispensational Theology.” I have read and studied these works, and have been richly blessed and instructed by both.

Acts 28

This view, also known as “hyper-dispensationalism” and “Bullingerism,” divides Paul’s epistles into two divisions: Acts and Post-Acts epistles. The view, considered to be the most extreme and unscriptural by classic and mid-Acts dispensationlists, emanated from the writings of late 19th, early 20th century Greek and Hebrew scholar, E.W. Bullinger. Although no one is absolutely sure Bullinger believed what is attributed to him, because he died before he finished writing it down, here is what most say he believed: The church of the present dispensation did not begin until Israel, as God’s chosen people, was set aside by Paul in Acts 28:26-28. Apparently, whatever was being established by Paul during his Acts ministry was considered to be a different entity, under a different gospel message. This post-Acts church, it is said, was the church of the “mystery” of Ephesians 3 and Colossians 1. In this view, there is no doctrine in Paul’s Acts Epistles (those letters written during his Acts ministry, to those congregations he established during it) which applies to the church of the mystery. Moreover, the practice of ordinances, including the Lord’s Supper, ended with the Acts.

I and other “stewards of the mysteries” I am associated with, are routinely accused by mid-Acts brethren of holding to the Acts 28 position. I would like to dispel this myth as follows.

The Rightly Divided Position

I think it can safely be said that every serious Bible expositor desires to rightly divide the scriptures. And I’m sure that all the above folks (as well as the multitude of non-dispensationalist theologians) believe they are doing this. But, obviously, someone isn’t, because all these different views of the Scriptures can’t be right.

Some might even say it’s impossible to rightly divide the scriptures. Nonsense. If Scripture commands us, through Paul, to rightly divide, and says that this is the only way we can be counted “workmen,” then I believe it must needs be possible. I think the first question must be, in the quest to come to “the knowledge of the truth….unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God…”(1 Tim 2:4; Col 2:2), is what does Paul mean by the phrase “rightly divid(ing)”? Does he mean to divide the whole canon of scripture, old and new testaments? Generally speaking, yes. However, the manner in which this is done, e.g., what and how many dispensations one comes up with is—as Pastor Baker rightly points out in “A Dispensational Theology”—academic. Does he mean dividing what he wrote from what the other NT writers wrote? Absolutely. I don’t think there would be any argument about this among those dispensationalists who see Paul’s revelation as distinct from the rest of the NT.

So, what’s the rub? The rub is over the idea that Paul meant not only for us to distinguish his revelation from the rest of the NT, but to rightly divide that revelation as well. Before you start screaming “Bullengerism!” hear me out on this; it might surprise you.

As I see it, this is the way it falls out:

As I pointed out heretofore, all the mid-Acts Brethren would agree that the church of the present dispensation did not begin in Acts 2 and 3 with the conversion of the eight thousand. That was the beginning of the carrying out of the commission given to the Lord's disciples, in Matthew 28 and Mark 16, to Israel. This is the calling out the new nation of Matthew 21:43; "the lost sheep of the house of Israel" (Matt. 10:6). In other words, the so-called “great commission” is not for the church of the present dispensation to carry out. The message preached by Peter in Acts 2:38 was a continuation of what was preached in the beginning of the Lord’s earthly ministry—the “gospel of the kingdom”(Matt. 4:23)—and was particular to that dispensation, and the future kingdom to come. It is therefore not efficacious for the present dispensation. The church, the body of Christ, began with Saul in Acts 9. This has to be so because, in 1 Timothy 1:16, Paul said he was the first to be saved like he was, and would be a pattern to all who followed him. The Acts 13 separation of Saul from the Jerusalem church, the changing of his name to the Gentile name, Paul, and the move to Antioch, where we see the first recorded preaching of the his gospel (verses 38,39), to a mixed crowd of Jews and Gentiles, signifies the beginning of what he would later call "a dispensation of the gospel.” (1 Cor. 9:17).

From this point forward, with the exception of chapter 15, Paul completely dominates the Acts. All during this period he goes "to the Jew first” (Romans 1:16). But, beginning in chapter 18, he reveals that “henceforth I will go to the Gentiles.” (verse 6). Why would he say this when he had been preaching to Gentiles since Acts 13? He couldn’t have been speaking of them. In chapter 22 he again announces that the Lord had told him, “I will send thee far hence unto the Gentiles.” These “far hence” Gentiles could only be those Gentiles he described in Ephesians and Colossians, who were “strangers from the covenants of promise.”(Eph. 2:12) All the Gentiles he had gone to thus far were, in one way or another, in Israel’s covenants (Gal. 3:29). They were either Gentile proselytes (circumcised Gentiles), or uncircumcised Gentiles "who feared God, and worked righteousness" (like Cornelius in Acts 10).

Although the body of Christ was being formed by the gospel of Christ during this time, there is no way this could be the dispensation of grace, as the mid-Acts view says it is. The reason for this is the church (the body of Christ), so as not to offend the Jews or the Church of God (the church at Jerusalem), was still keeping the Jewish ordinances—including water baptism. It is true that Paul said to the Corinthians, “Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel,” (1 Cor 1:17), but the fact is, he was baptizing people! He berated the Galatians for desiring to be circumcised, but he circumcised Timothy!( Acts 16:3). In Romans 3:20 he said, “by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified..” but in 1 Corinthians 9:20 he said, “unto the Jews I became as a Jew; to them that are under the law, as under the law…” He also manifested all the sign gifts during the Acts, right up to the last chapter. And in that final chapter—after having declared he was going “far hence unto the Gentiles” in chapter 22, what does he do when he arrives in Rome as a prisoner? He calls for the Jewish leadership! To the Jew first!

In Acts 28:26-28 Paul, applying Isaiah 6:9, declares the Nation Israel to be blinded and casts them away as God‘s chosen people. He is now ready to fully reveal the mystery, the dispensation of the grace of God. It could not have commenced before this because as long as Israel was in the forefront, ordinances were in order for the body of Christ.

The Difference Between the Dispensation of the Gospel and the Dispensation of Grace

The grace dispensation did not change the gospel or the means of salvation, nor did it create another church. What it did was bring together the Acts congregations that had been formed by the preaching of the gospel of Christ, who were under ordinances (Ref. 1 Cor. 11:2), with the post-Acts congregations who were not, into one fellowship (“the fellowship of the mystery” - Eph. 3:9), the “one new man” of Eph.esians 2:15. This could only be accomplished by doing away with the ordinances, which would include everything that had been associated with Israel, including divine healing, tongues, words of knowledge, prophecies, feasts, ceremonials, Sabbaths, etc.

If someone asks me where I believe my marching orders are in Scripture, without hesitation, I will tell them: Paul’s 13 epistles, rightly divided. Is what is written in the Acts epistles written to me? The doctrines concerning salvation, justification, reconciliation, resurrection, etc. certainly are. But, am I to go to the Jew first, as Paul directs in Romans 1:16? Or start observing the law (become as a Jew) in order to win those of Jewish descent? Not offend the Jews or the Church of God? Shave my head and take a vow? Keep the Jewish feast days? Abstain from eating meats offered to idols? Desire the one of the sign gifts of 1 Corinthians 12:28-30? Absolutely not! Why? Because that program ended with the simultaneous casting away of national Israel and the advent of the grace dispensation, which is where we are now, and have been for 2000 years.

The principles of grace, and the foundational doctrines are distributed among all 13 of Paul’s letters. I spend just as much time teaching out of the first six epistles as I do the last seven. Nevertheless, I still make a distinction between the two because there are things that were being done by Paul and the Acts church during that time that aren’t called for now.

In summary, I see the grace dispensation, the mystery, as the revelation that ended all the practices associated with the Jew’s religion. As Sir Robert Anderson put it, “Christianity is not a religion, it is a revelation and a faith.” I believe my primary duty as a teacher—in addition to preaching the gospel of Christ—is to show this mystery, which did away with religion, to the world. I cannot see any other way of effectively accomplishing this without rightly dividing Paul’s revelation.

In Christ;

Mike Schroeder

Please feel free to re-print this article or re-distribute it via the internet. All Scripture references are taken from the King James Bible.

Have you ever trusted Christ and what he did for you at Calvary? Do you know, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that you are saved, sealed and bound for heaven? If you aren’t sure, make this the “day of your salvation,” by admitting to your sinful condition, and simply asking the Lord to save you. “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved.”

 

Link to  Mike Schroeder's Article:

https://www.agbsf.com/rightly-dividing-pauls-epistles/